Thursday, May 24, 2007

Season 3 FInale: "Through the Looking Glass"

WOW. That was a great episode. This is definitely going to take some time, though. I need to watch it again (especially the flashbacks - or I guess I should say flashforwards?) so I can pay closer attention to those scenes with Jack in the future.

I will post by the end of the day.

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Okay, I'm back! And I just rewatched it. Oh my gosh, I don't even know where to begin!!! (warning: I think this is the longest post ever.)

(1) So, we learn that Jack and Kate definitely get rescued. I think we are to assume that everyone gets rescued, but I actually don't think so. Here are my thoughts on that. First of all, I don't think that the "rescue boat" of Naomi's is actually going to save them. I do think that Ben was telling the truth in that these are the "bad guys" who have been trying to find the island for some time. I think that over the next couple of seasons, we will see what happens when these other "bad" guys arrive. But I don't think they are rescuing the losties. Anyway, I think that eventually, they have an opportunity to get off the island, but that only Jack and Kate (and maybe 1 or 2 others) actually are rescued. The main reason I think this, is because in the final scene with Jack and Kate meeting outside the airport, he tells her "I'm sick of lying. We made a mistake." and also says "We were not supposed to leave" and keeps saying "We have to go back." To me, this implies that they had to make a choice, and maybe they left everyone else behind in order to save themselves and it sounds like he is regretting that decision. Also, he mentions that he is sick of lying. DId they have to lie about something after they got back, maybe if they left other people behind? Or are they just having to keep the whereabouts of the island and the Others a secret? It is clear, however, that Jack wants to go back to the island. Whether it is to get the other people (if they did leave the rest of them behind) OR if it is just because his life is so messed up after leaving. Kind of like how Locke didn't want to leave the island, Jack now realizes that he was the man he wanted to be on the island (the leader) but that back at home he is not that man. He spent the whole time wanting to leave, and now he actually wants to go back. He even tells Kate that he flies all the time now just praying that the plane will crash. And in that final scene when he is calling Kate on the phone, you see him sitting in his home, which is covered with maps. Maps on the walls, maps spread out all over the floors, drawings and diagrams, compasses, etc. - he is clearly trying to find the island again and a way to get back there. But as Ben once said, no one will ever be able to find this island.

(2) We also learn a great deal about Jack's "future." It is very interesting to see these "flashbacks" play out and then to learn at the end that they are actually flash-forwards. I was shocked!!! Basically, ever since returning to real life, Jack has become a mess. He is a drunk, he is addicted to prescription drugs, he tries to commit suicide. He basically has become his worse nightmare. Ben was 100% correct when he asks Jack on the island "What is it that you have to go back to?" It is true, he has nothing left. And even more interesting, is that Jack has basically turned into his father. The man he hated, he has now become. It is very ironic, that on the island, Jack was the leader, the man everyone looked up to, the man who could always "fix" everything. Even his name, Jack SHEPHARD, suggests that he is a leader. Yet after getting back to real life, he is a completely different person. It is like the island took his life from him, he was shed of his true self, and "lost" who he used to be. The whole time he was on the island, he wanted nothing more than to go home, to get off that island. But for what? Ben was exactly right. And now we have seen what Jack has turned into after being rescued. And I think it's very interesting that the island - which has cured people of illness and basically given everyone a chance to start anew - that the island allowed Jack to be that leader, to be the "hero" that everyone looked up to, but once OFF the island, he is no longer that man. (It will be interesting to see what happens to the other survivors after getting off the island, will they change as well? Were they all truly MEANT to be on that island?)

(3) Throughout the course of Jack's "flash-forwards," we learn that the reason he kept calling Kate over and over is because he finds out that someone has died. The big question is, whose funeral was it? I think it is very obvious that it was someone who is connected to both Jack and Kate, therefore it would be someone from the island. When Jack goes to the funeral, he learns that nobody showed up. He tells the funeral director that he is neither friend nor family. And when he asks Kate about going, she says "why would I go to the funeral?" So it appears as if it were someone that neither one of them cared about. But, we also see that Jack cries when reading about it in the paper. He does seem truly sad about whoever it is that died, but I think that it might not be sadness he is feeling over losing that person, just sadness about the whole experience in general. Basically, this person dying is just a reminder of his time on the island, and what his life has become since leaving. Here he is, contemplating suicide, so obviously he is a mess, and I think the added pressure from reading about the death of this person has just added to Jack's depression and psychosis. I think it is Locke who died. I think that deep down, Jack could truly be sad because he started out on the same side as Locke, they were in it together. But as we have seen over the course of the past three seasons, and especially the past few weeks, Locke has betrayed them and switched sides. In this particular episode, Locke even goes so far as to be willing to shoot Jack. I think that Jack and Kate would not go to his funeral, because he betrayed them all, and continuously tried to keep them from leaving the island. Of course they would not consider him a "friend." Also, it seems as if the man's name starts with a "J" (john locke?) If you read what little information is visible in the screencap of the newspaper, here is what we can make out: "Man Found Downtown...the body of J_____ of New York was found shortly after 4am in the _____ of Grand __ at the __ loud __ man's loft ___ safety, he ____." I think that we are not going to find out exactly who died until the very end of the series (in three years).



(4) We also know that Jack saved a woman and her 8-year-old son from a car crash on the bridge just as he was about to kill himself. People keep calling him a hero, but he knows deep down that he is not. I do think, however, that whoever this woman is that he saved, is not just someone random. I think we will see in a few more seasons that it is someone he is connected with. It could be Claire (and Aaron is her now 8-year-old son) or it could be Juliette's sister (and her son Julien) or perhaps someone else connected to the island. But I do think, that in true LOST fashion, there is going to be some connection there. Jack was definitely too interested in making sure she was okay. At first I think that it didn't seem so out of character because Jack, as the heroic doctor, was always like that, wanting to "fix" people and make sure everyone was okay. But we have to remember that Jack is no longer that person. So I think that he knows who the woman is and was truly concerned about her because he knows her. And I'd be willing to bet that in a couple years, probably in the final few episodes of the series, we will see another "flashback" but from the woman's point of view (let's just say it was Claire) and we would see her in the car driving, then seeing Jack off to the side jumping off the bridge, and then seeing the crash from her point of view. I'm sure there has to be some connection there, whoever the woman is.

(5) The other major revelations we learn in this episode have to do with Naomi's boat and the fact that it is NOT Penny's rescue team. As I said above, I do think that Ben was telling the truth to Jack about Naomi not being who she said she was. I think that she may be a part of the "real" Dharma Initiative, and that perhaps they are coming back to reclaim their island, their stations, and what they came to do in the first place, before Ben killed them all. They have probably been trying to find the island for years, like Ben said, and now they have found it. I do think that another "war" will break out, and I think that the survivors are going to have to choose which side to be on. I actually think that they may end up going to the Others side, after seeing that maybe Ben was trying to protect everyone all along (even though he is still creepy). I think that although they have killed people, and they do seem like they are bad, like Ben said, I think they may have "good" reasons for having to do those things, and we just don't know the whole story yet.

(6) Another very interesting connection here is that Penny made an incoming call to the Looking Glass station. She claimed to know nothing about the "rescue boat" or Naomi, so it appears that she does not have anything to do with that. So the big question is, why was she calling the station? She clearly did not know that Desmond was there, as she seemed shocked when Charlie said that he was there. We do know that her father owns Widmore Labs, and that there seems to be some connection with Widmore and the Dharma Initiative. So there could be some ulterior motive there with Penny contacting one of the Dharma stations. Very strange.

(7) Locke. So we find out that he is definitely alive (which I knew he would be!) and that Ben did not kill him. He wakes up in the ditch and cannot feel his legs, and in a moment of despair, he is about to put a gun to his head. Then a "vision" of Walt comes up and Walt tells him not to do it, that he has work that he has to do. Once again, Locke believes that he is meant to do something on the island, that it is his calling. He has a purpose on this island, and he has to fulfill it. He shows up at the radio tower and tells Jack not to call in to the rescue boat, that he is "not supposed to do this." He kills Naomi, and is fully prepared to kill Jack (but when actually faced with it, he can't do it). For whatever reason, he truly believes that they are not supposed to radio in to the boat. Does he have an intuition about who these people are, or does he truly just not want them to get off the island? It seems that Locke is emerging as the new "leader" of this island, and although he isn't telling them why, it seems that he truly knows the reason why they should not be calling Naomi's radio. I really think he has some special power, and that Locke can "see" what is supposed to happen. I kind of think that Locke may actually be trying to save JACK. He knows that Jack is meant to stay on the island. That once Jack leaves the island, his life will spin out of control. It could be that he blew up the submarine, and now is trying to prevent Naomi from calling her boat, because he is actually trying to save Jack. That could be the thing he is supposed to do....keeping Jack on the island to "save" him from becoming his future self.

(8) So, it appears that Charlie is dead. (And yes, I think that he really is dead. They had to kill someone major off). He sacrifices his own life to help get everyone rescued. He thought that was his fate. But as it turns out, it seems that Desmond did not really have this "vision" after all, even though Charlie did end up turning off the radio jamming signal, and drowning anyway. But when he says something to Desmond about he has to do this because it is his destiny, Desmond looks like he wasn't telling the truth. However, Charlie is willing to die for this cause, because he truly believes in fate and that if he does this, he will get everyone else rescued. But, I don't think that Charlie killing himself is going to help get them rescued. I also don't understand why he couldn't have just escaped with Desmond (they had scuba gear) - I guess he felt that he was supposed to die, and that if he did it, they would all get rescued.

(9) Hurley. Poor, sweet Hurley. He just wants to help. I felt so bad for him when first Charlie told him he could not come along, and now Sawyer. He truly just wants to be a part of the group, and to do something good. I knew that when Sawyer yelled at home and told him to go back, that he was going to follow them anyway, and I just KNEW that he was going to end up saving them at the end! My favorite line of the night, was when Hurley used Tom's walkie-talkie to call Ben and he says "Come in, Others...Calling all Others" - ha ha! Gotta love Hurley. He finally got his chance to be a hero and save the day :)

(10). Ben - Finally, Ben's people are no longer trusting him. They see that he has been lying to him and they are starting to question his authority. He lied to everyone about the Looking Glass station and that it was flooded. He lied to everyone about the two women that were down there (Mikhail says to them, "I thought you two were on assignment in Canada?") The Others don't seem to trust Ben at all anymore. Mikhail clearly says he doesn't trust him, and also when Ben radios Tom and tells him to kill Jin, Sayid and Bernard, they go against his orders and just fire three shots into the sand (which I was SO happy about to learn that they didn't die!) - But, obviously there is a struggle of power here and Ben is losing his "leadership" amongst the Others. The big question will be, does Locke take over as leader, or will Ben emerge again once Naomi's group shows up (because he could say "I told you so" if they truly do end up being the "bad guys.")

Also - the two women in the Looking Glass station. Does anyone else besides me totally think the brunette woman was Cassidy (Sawyer's woman that he conned and also the woman who helped Kate see her mom). I'm really think it had to be her! I can't figure out why she would be there, and the fact that Mikhail killed her kind of takes away any reason they would have to tie her into the show and let Sawyer run into her, but I'm telling you, I really really think that was her!!!

I do also want to comment on the "flash-forwards" - alot of people have said they don't believe they were all scenes from the future because of the fact that Jack mentioned his dad at the hospital. People have been saying that must have been a scene from the past because he said about getting his dad and seeing if he was more drunk than him, and that had to be a true flashback because his dad was dead. Here is my take on that. I definitely think all of these scenes did take place in the future (after getting off the island). The main reason being that each of these scenes is somehow related to the newspaper article, and Jack going to the funeral, calling Kate, etc. I think the reference to his father was just to show us how delusional he is, that he is completely messed up. He is drunk and psychotic. Even after he says it, "go get my father and see if he is drunker than me" - the Chief of Surgery just looks at him and shakes his head, and Jack says "don't pity me." It's like he knew that he sounded completely crazy. But I absolutely think that all of Jack's "scenes" took place in the future. In fact, I hope that we see more scenes from the "future" in the next few seasons to come. It definitely will be interesting to see how everyone's life changes after being rescued and what becomes of everyone. But like I said above, I think they will still be on the island for awhile, I don't think they'll get rescued right away... three more seasons is a long time!

I can't believe we have to wait til next January or February for the next season to start!

22 Comments:

At 11:32 AM, Blogger Kristi said...

Would Jack be that sad if Locke died though? What about Jin? Does the last name end with anthem? It looked like it possibly.

I also think Kate was referring to Sawyer when she said talked about getting back to "him".

OMG, I can't wait until your next post.

 
At 1:07 PM, Blogger Dave said...

Stacy -

Thanks for your quick post. As you rewatch, will you tell me about Sun being on the plane with Jack in his 'flash-forward'? I erased the episode too quickly, but I remember seeing her there... is Jin with her?

Also, I think that Sawyer is the dead guy. Jack doesn't seem sad, he seems upset. Sawyer is changing pretty rapidly, and I think he turns into someone that Kate wouldn't be with.

Since Jack talks about being tired of secrets, I think the 'he' Kate referred to is Jacob, and they are still somehow 'enslaved' to him, even though they got of the island.

 
At 2:33 PM, Blogger Stacey said...

Kristi - I do think he would be a little sad if Locke died. Not because he thought of him as a friend (after all, Locke betrayed them all) but just because it's a reminder of everything that has happened in his life. At one time, Locke and Jack were on the same side, and worked together. I do think Jack will remember the man he used to be, the man Locke used to be, and that he is just sad because of everything that has happened as a result of them all being on that island.

David - I had the same thought as you the first time I watched. I totally thought that was Sun and Jin behind him on the plane. But watching back, it wasn't them. My husband had a good point about that. The producers probably put them in there to make us think it was them, because they want us to think they are all on the plane together and that it is a flashback. Clearly we would not have guessed that was the future. It was the first scene of the show, so they were trying to make us think we were watching a scene of them all on the plane (except for Jack's beard of course made us realize it wasn't the 815 flight).

I'm not sure about Jack's reference to keeping secrets and lying. There definitely had to be something big after they got rescued that they had to agree about - to lie about. Whether it was that they would never tell anyone about the island and the Others, or that they are lying about the other people they were with. I don't know. I hope we see more about this in the next season, though.

 
At 3:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I ahve so many questions about lastnight's episode. I was wondering do you think maybe everything we've seen if the show before the flash forwards is what everyone's remebering? Maybe everyone is off the island and we're seeing what they went through? Also, Jack was on an Oceanic flight but last year when I went to the Oceanic website it said since the tragic flight of 815
they went out of business.
There are still so amny unanswered question's. We ahve 8 long months to wait,

 
At 3:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to wonder about the size of the coffin, it was quite small for an adult.....

Jennifer

 
At 3:07 PM, Blogger Stacey said...

I do think that what we have seen in the past three seasons has been their "present-time" experiences. I think (and I have no basis for this, it's just my personal idea) that they will have a "struggle" on the island with the new "bad guys" over the next season, then they will get rescued, and from that point on, we will start seeing flashbacks of what ended up happening on the island (but shown from the future, so we already know what happened to them, but we would then be seeing their flashback of what really happened during their final days on the island).

 
At 3:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great Post! The brunette from last night is not Cassidy. They are 2 different actresses. The brunette from the looking glass is Lana Parrilla. She played in Boomtown and Windfall. I have been looking for the actress that plays Cassidy and haven't found it but it is someone different.

 
At 4:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow...I am dying to rewatch this episode again!

Stacey, I agree with you that the deceased man is probably Locke. I am very inquisitive as to why he would leave the island. After all, nobody wants to stay more than Locke. Something very serious must happen to make him leave (especially if they did indeed leave other survivors bedind).

In regards to the woman in the car crash, didn't we see her face when they showed her in the hospital bed on the ventilator?

Okay...I am confusd with this Walt thing. Was it just me, or does Walt look completely different and about 3 yrs older?

I was disappointed that Charlie died. I am glad that he went out as a hero, but he totally could have escaped! Either with the scuba gear, or even out of the window after the room completely filled. I was a little bit upset with that.

What is up with Bernard! I really liked his character, but no so much now! How could he fold so easily. He endangered the lives of the survivors, including Rose. Very disappointed in Bernard.

There were definitely some great lines that made me crack up! For instance, when Rose told Jack that if he said "Live together, die alone" that she would punch him. Ha! Go Rose!

Also, when Danielle was formally introduced to Alex, she looks at her and says "we need to tie him up (in refernce to Ben)." That was great!

And what can I say...I was cheering for Hurley the entire time, especially when he ran the Other over! He did scare me for a second there, I thought that he might be the character that would die.I am so glad that he wasn't.

I thought that the entire show was done very well. I am very pleased with the finale, and of course...eagerly awaiting season 4!

Just a thought...do you think that Jacob can "morph" into different characters (appearing as the ghosts/visions)? Jack's father, Ben's Mother, Walt?

 
At 4:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stacey, Great Post! Interesting theory that Kate and Jack left the island but that "others" still remain there. I think you are on to something here. A lot of Jack's quotes in his fast-forwards point in this direction including him shouting to Kate that they need to go back. What I find interesting is the quote we heard from Jack in an early episode and from Rose last night. "Live together or Die Alone." By leaving others behind, they no longer live together, so the mystery man dies alone (no one showed for his funeral) and Jack dies alone.

 
At 4:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just wanted to thank you for doing this! First thing my coworker and I discussed this morning was that we couldn't wait to read your post.

 
At 5:11 PM, Blogger Stacey said...

Okay I'm going to attempt to answer alot of people's posts here....

first - thanks to the person who cleared that up about Cassidy. I was trying to find out the actresses that played both characters to see if it was the same person, but could not find it anywhere. I am bummed though, because I was hoping to have a Cassidy connection in there somewhere!!

To answer the question about the car crash victim, yes they show her face but she is so badly bruised and swollen you really wouldn't be able to know who it was (plus if this was several years into the future, they might look a bit different).

On the question about Walt - yes, of course he looks three years older. Because he IS three years older! Remember than in "Lost" time, it has only been about 90 days since they crashed on the island, but in reality it has been three years since the show started. That was the main reason they had to take Walt's character off the show, because at the time he was 10 years old, and knowing he would grow very rapidly, now being 13 and more through puberty, naturally he has grown up alot in "real life."

I totally agree about Charlie. Why did he have to shut himself into the vault. He could have closed the door to the vault, gotten out with Desmond and swam back to shore with the scuba gear, warned everyone else about Naomi himself. I know, it's a tv show, but still, I am disappointed he didn't think of that himself. I guess he was so fixated on his "fate" and that he was supposed to die in there.

To answer the question about Jacob "morphing" into other people. Yes, absolutely. I think I wrote about this a few episodes ago...that I think that Jacob actually is "the black smoke" and that he has the "special" power to be able to become the persona of other characters. For example, Jack's dad who has appeared to him, the black horse for Kate, Walt appearing to Shannon and Sayid (and now again with Locke), and of course Ben's mother appearing to him. I think that Jacob IS the black smoke, and that the black smoke is what other people want to see in their darkest moments.

 
At 5:13 PM, Blogger Dave said...

Regarding the timeline of Jack's flashes and his Dad being alive...

There have been some compelling theories about how time flows and how the island can affect it. One is related to quantum theory, which kind of says every possible universe is currently occurring, and it is possible to travel between them. A more compelling idea involves the nature of time.

If time is a part of space, then time doesn't move in a straight line, but occurs all at once. We just experience the part that we are in right now. Therefore, our actions can change the past and the future. (I know, it's confusing and I don't explain it well.) Basically, things can be altered. So perhaps Jack's flash forward was an alternate reality, where his Dad is still alive, or maybe something happens in Seasons 4-6 that change his father's fate.

Here is the theory I was attempting to explain, with a link the the article I found it in...

The following is an excerpt from Doc Jensen's column today, found here.
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20039837,00.html

WHAT IS THE ISLAND?
A possible ''real science'' explanation of Lost

Guest commentary by J. Wood, author of the great new book Living Lost and writer of one of the best Lost blogs out there, housed at powells.com. J. recently sent me an email with this take on the Island. Given that his theory addresses Desmond's visions of Charlie's death and Naomi's claim that the Oceanic 815 passengers were all found dead — storylines which may be coming to a head tonight — I thought this would be a good time share Mr. Wood's theory with you:

''I'm under the opinion that each time Des saves Charlie, he's changed not only the future, but the present and past as well.

''It's like this: The island sits on an interesting geologically unique electromagnetic crux, and I [look] into the possible importance of that in my book. For some time, Brookhaven National Labs has been doing some experiments to prove the idea that there are more dimensions to space than we know, and those experiments require massive amounts of electromagnetic energy. The short version is that it has to do with Minkowski space — that's the three-dimensional Euclidian space we know + time as a fourth dimension. A physicist named Minkowski realized that by considering time as a component of space, Einstein's special theory of relativity worked out just fine (and Einstein explained his theory through the twin paradox). The Brookhaven experiments may be confirming that there are multiple dimensions that we're existing within, and these experiments were going before Lost ever began.

''If time is part of space, our conception of time is way off; time doesn't move so much like an arrow, rather all time is occurring at once. We just don't experience it like that, just like we don't experience all space at once, but only experience our immediate space. Besides, if we experienced all time at once, that'd really twist our heads.

''So if we're dealing with Minkowski space and all time is occurring at once, then there is only a present, no past and future. Furthermore, with enough electromagnetic energy, you can play on the boundaries between these dimensions. It seems we have the geologically unique electromagnetic energy, and Des is tripping along the dimensional boundary of time that the electromagnetic implosion has exposed. So perhaps when Des saves Charlie, he's not just changing the future (as it were), but also the past and the present. If that's the case, one of those acts of heroism may have altered history, and Flight 815 was found with everyone dead. Only the island is immune from these fluctuations, again because of its geologically unique electromagnetism.

''I hope that makes a little bit of sense.''

 
At 5:16 PM, Blogger Kristi said...

If Penny had no clue who Naomi was and didn't know anything about her rescue boat -- HOW/WHY did Naomi have Penny/Desmond's picture when she crashed that ONLY Penny and Desmond had a copy of? And right away she asked for Desmond. Unless Penny gave her dad that picture - Penny was lying I think. (Why?!?)

Yes, that was dang annoying that Charlie didn't swim through the window after the room filled with water.
Unrelated to the show really -- I wonder how him and Kate are going to deal with that since they're dating in real life. (Evangaline and Dominique).

My brain is going to seriously combust if the past three seasons of flashbacks are really all flash forwards - I can't think straight even imagining it. If THAT is the case I'm going to have to buy six seasons on dvd and re-watch because it will change everything.

Also - if this entire series ends with a NON-happy ending I'm going to be so disappointed. So far, not looking good unless Jack straightens up.

 
At 5:18 PM, Blogger Josh said...

What if Kate has a son that she needed to get back to? They keep mentioning pregnancy, so maybe she had a son and that's who would "wonder where she was at." Just a thought, something that not many people have brought up yet.

 
At 7:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, David! Thanks for posting that! It certainly does send the mind spinning and start connecting all the dots. And Ben's statement that everyone will die if they leave the island becomes much more believable. Cannot wait until the next season!

 
At 7:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the previous flashbacks are definitely flashbacks since Sun thought she might have gotten pregnant from by her English tutor (whom she had an affair with before getting on Oceanic Flight 815) - so it would not make sense if the flashbacks were weally flash forward.

I also agree from someone's comment above that the coffin looked a little short. I then thought, well Ben doesn't look too tall.

I wondered why in they were showing a Motorola Krzr Jack was using to call Kate - I thought they came out in 2006 - so those flashbacks ARE indeed flash forwards - or more like Flash to the PRESENT time.

As for the woman Jack saved - wow, Stacey, I didn't even think of Claire or Juiliet's sister. I thought maybe the woman he saved was Sawyer's old con girlfriend (Cassidy?) - and that was Sawyer's son with the broken arm. But now I'm wondering if the woman was really someone he knew...

~From, "Addicted"
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At 9:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

did anybody else think that Sayid was just amazing!! how cool is a guy that will spit in a dudes face even though he's 2 seconds from being killed! and when he snapped that dudes neck that was so awesome! he would totally be my friend if he was a real person.

anyway, i think it is locke in the coffin. i think the reason jack was so upset is because he now realizes locke was right all along about the island. it was his destiny to be there. jacks been trying to find the island again by flying hoping his destiny would take him back there. i think with the death of locke jack loses ALL hope and just wants to die.

i don't think that jacks life became a mess because ben said it would. it became a mess because jack let it become a mess. it's totally his fault. just because you don't have a wife or kids waiting at home means you don't have anything to live for? who believes that? jack saved lives. that's what he did - if that's not a purpose i don't know what is.

 
At 10:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

also, i would like to add to my post above.

i certainly do not think that what we saw as the future is etched in stone. i think what we saw is a possible future (or present or whatever). i think in the game of lost anything can happen.

oh yeah, and Hurley is ASWESOME too!!!

 
At 11:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the person in the coffin was Ben. He had no family, (mom died giving birth to him, and he killed his father on the island, and lie and betrayed his daughter-who do we really know if this is Ben's biological child? How do we know that he just didn't steal her away from Danielle when she was born and raise her like his own). Thus explaining why Jack said he wasn't family and he wasn't a friend. AND the reason he was so upset and crying when he saw the blurb in the paper about his death, was because he realized that Ben was right all along. That he shouldn't have left the island and if he had listen to him they would still be on the island and Jack's life wouldn't be so messed up. This theory also explains as to to how Kate reacted when asked if she went to the funeral. She answered in a shocked, mad kinda way like why would she. Everyone hated Ben. But I think Jack realized that he was really a "good guy". Plus this explains the small coffin. Ben looks short.

 
At 11:48 AM, Blogger Brandi Wheeless said...

This is my first time to read this - a friend of mine forwarded your blog to me. It's great! Of course, just in time for the season finale. Haha. But two things:

1) Could it be Walt in the casket?

2) In the episode where Jack is locked up and Juliet is talking to him and telling him things about his ex-wife, doesn't she mention that she's pregnant? And she appears to be 9 months or so along in the "flash forward" so I guess that could give us a little time line.

 
At 7:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've got a question about Juliet and the timing of her arrival on the island...

It would appear as if the purge took place before she was recruited. We saw Ethan in those episodes. If the Dharma people were killed off before she was recruited, who took over the running and financing of the island? Certainly, word would have gotten back to Dharma about the purge. So why is Dharma still making food and supply drops? Why would they cooperate with Ben and the Others if their people had been killed off?

So was Ethan part of Dharma? Did Dharma order the purge? Has Ben been fooling Dharma all these years? If so, he had a lot of people going along with him to cover things up.

What do the rest of you think?

 
At 2:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure no one has posted this yet, but this is an interesting article about the theory that Jack's father was the man in the chair (i.e, "jacob"): http://tinyurl.com/3djmms.

 

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